Friday, October 12, 2007

The Rage Against Ann Coulter.

Anti-semite, bigot, racist, blah blah blah. Why? Because Ann Coulter simply said that Jews would be better off as Christians.

Here's one guy bitching about it:

Jews Not Perfect Enough for Ann Coulter
Yet more proof Ann Coulter likes to hear herself talk - and that talk shows like that! She appeared on The Big Idea with Donny Deutsch, and talks about how Jews need perfecting - "we just want Jews to be perfected, as they say" - to the point of being Christians. Deutsch was shocked, argued with her, and went to commercial by saying, "Ann Coulter, author of If Democrats Had Any Brains, They'd Be Republicans, and if Ann Coulter had any brains, she would not say Jews need to be perfected. I'm offended by that personally."

[my note:With the usual 'solution':]
Interesting, Seinfeld is a show created by some "imperfect" Jews! If anything, we'd like this to be a sign to the bookers at talk shows: Stop the Ann Coulter madness and stop inviting her on.

As usual the solution is to 'ban' dissent. I am sure actually an umbrella of groups like the ADL is planning to do just that. Someone says something you don't like on a no holds barred talk show? Ban them, not the show. That way fake controversy and distraction remains. East coast Jewish establishment can still pretend to be open minded, edgy, etc while really actively banning any sort of dissent or real challenge to their views like this one;

Call for Jews to stop calling Jesus a bastard

By Ben Martin
Last Updated: 12:14am BST 06/10/2007

A senior American cardinal has asked Jews to reconsider descriptions of Jesus as a "bastard" in exchange for a softening of traditional Catholic prayers calling for Jews to be converted to Christianity.

The controversial comments, by Cardinal Francis George of the Archdiocese of Chicago, concern a prayer said during Easter celebrations by the small number of parishes or priests who celebrate a particular form of Good Friday mass.

Those version of Good Friday prayers calls for the congregation to pray for Jews to be converted to Christianity.

But Cardinal George said this prayer should be amended to ensure it did not offend Jews.

"I suspect (the amendment) probably will be (made), because the intention is to be sure that our prayers are not offensive to the Jewish people who are our ancestors in the faith," Cardinal George said in an interview with the National Catholic Reporter.

"We can't possibly insult them in our liturgy … not that any group has a veto on anybody's prayers, because you can go through Jewish texts and find material that is offensive to us. But if we're interested in keeping the dialogue strong, and we have to be, we should be very cautious about any prayer that they find insulting."

But this should mean that Jews, in turn, consider amending their own religious texts, he said.

"It does work both ways. Maybe this is an opening to say, 'Would you care to look at some of the Talmudic literature's description of Jesus as a bastard, and so on, and maybe make a few changes in some of that?'"

As the Cardinal states. If Christians believe that to be saved you must be Christian, then how is it offensive to wish that one be converted? Not forced mined you, but spiritually? Answer: it isn't and as the Cardinal points out the hypocrisy of Jewish groups doing this is beyond belief, when, if the Cardinal and others are to be believed, their spiritual texts are filled with anti-Christian passages. I do not read Hebrew and do not know myself (i have heard conflicting comments) but given the hostility to things as innnocent as Christmas trees by groups like the ADL, I am wont to believe they do.

WND has a 'fair and balanced' take on it, mentioning:
The National Jewish Democratic Council called on "mainstream media outlets" to stop inviting Coulter as a guest commentator and pundit and strongly condemned her comments that in a perfect world all would be Christians.

They are playing a no win game here. If they do suceed in banning her at a time of increased awareness of the power of the Israeli Lobby and influence of the wealthy East Coast Jewish elite in general, it would be hard to pull this off 'behind the scenes'. If they suceed it will be yet another example of an unbalanced influence by a small group, not to mention creating a further rift between the only group that still supports Israel. If they fail, it will be a visible loss of power, that what they object to can be said and one can still remain in the limelight and have access to the media. We'll see.

But someone gets it right:

Kevin McCollough writes:
"Danny Deutsch in short is an angry anti-Christian bigo
t, looking to make a name for himself by biting into Christian icons. Pretty sad way to attempt to "scratch your way" into the "big time.""

Catholics think I would be better off Catholic. Am I offended? Afraid? Environmentalists think I would be better off if I 'believed in' global warming. Am I offended?

Instead of constantly accusing others of antisemitism, I think it is about time the East coast Jewish elite were confronted about their own bigotry, their own ethnocentrism, their out right hatred and contempt and distrust of middle America, the South and Christianity. Since the 1960s they have led an all out assault on all three. In my personal experience, I don't think most Jews feel this way, any more than the actions of the Episcopal church and Bush family represent the views of this Anglo-Saxon Anglican.

postscript: a little googling around revealed this about one version of the Talmud:
What exactly is so scandalous? How about Jesus punished in Hell for eternity by being made to sit in a cauldron of boiling excrement? That image appears in early manuscripts of the Babylonian Talmud, as does a brief account of Jesus' trial and execution—not by the Romans but by the Jewish high court, the Sanhedrin. The Jewish community, to the extent Jews were even aware of these excised texts, has been content to let them remain obscure and unknown. If groups like the ADL are aware of this and I cannot imagine they could not be, how on earth could they continue to demand the Catholic Church change its Easter prayers and not address the issue of Talmudic texts? Hmmph.

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