Tuesday, April 17, 2007

We're not Just Bowling Alone, According to Putnam

It was one of the more irony-laden incidents in the history of celebrity social scientists. While in Sweden to receive a $50,000 academic prize as political science professor of the year, Harvard's Robert D. Putnam, a former Carter administration official who made his reputation writing about the decline of social trust in America in his bestseller Bowling Alone, confessed to Financial Times columnist John Lloyd that his latest research discovery—that ethnic diversity decreases trust and co-operation in communities—was so explosive that for the last half decade he hadn't dared announce it "until he could develop proposals to compensate for the negative effects of diversity, saying it 'would have been irresponsible to publish without that.'"

Whether you agree or disagree, this should at least give cause to stop and think - perhaps mass immigration and deliberate efforts to engineer diversity are as devisive and wrong-headed as forced segregation:

Study paints bleak picture of ethnic diversity

By John Lloyd in London

Published: October 8 2006 22:08 | Last updated: October 8 2006 22:08

A bleak picture of the corrosive effects of ethnic diversity has been revealed in research by Harvard University’s Robert Putnam, one of the world’s most influential political scientists.

His research shows that the more diverse a community is, the less likely its inhabitants are to trust anyone – from their next-door neighbour to the mayor.

This is a contentious finding in the current climate of concern about the benefits of immigration. Professor Putnam told the Financial Times he had delayed publishing his research until he could develop proposals to compensate for the negative effects of diversity, saying it “would have been irresponsible to publish without that”.

The core message of the research was that, “in the presence of diversity, we hunker down”, he said. “We act like turtles. The effect of diversity is worse than had been imagined. And it’s not just that we don’t trust people who are not like us. In diverse communities, we don’t trust people who do look like us.”

Prof Putnam found trust was lowest in Los Angeles, “the most diverse human habitation in human history”, but his findings also held for rural South Dakota, where “diversity means inviting Swedes to a Norwegians’ picnic”.

When the data were adjusted for class, income and other factors, they showed that the more people of different races lived in the same community, the greater the loss of trust. “They don’t trust the local mayor, they don’t trust the local paper, they don’t trust other people and they don’t trust institutions,” said Prof Putnam. “The only thing there’s more of is protest marches and TV watching.”

British Home Office research has pointed in the same direction and Prof Putnam, now working with social scientists at Manchester University, said other European countries would be likely to have similar trends.

His 2000 book, Bowling Alone, on the increasing atomisation of contemporary society, made him an academic celebrity. Though some scholars questioned how well its findings applied outside the US, policymakers were impressed and he was invited to speak at Camp David, Downing Street and Buckingham Palace.

Prof Putnam stressed, however, that immigration materially benefited both the “importing” and “exporting” societies, and that trends “have been socially constructed, and can be socially reconstructed”.

In an oblique criticism of Jack Straw, leader of the House of Commons, who revealed last week he prefers Muslim women not to wear a full veil, Prof Putnam said: “What we shouldn’t do is to say that they [immigrants] should be more like us. We should construct a new us.”


I found Putnam's last comment most disturbing: To 'construct' a new 'us' requires destroying the old 'us' and this exactly what our elite has been doing since the 1960s...Why should we have to destroy our current culture and society for some ideal that Putnam himself admits is detrimental to society? It strikes me as disturbingly arrogant - who gave Putnam - or our 'elite' a 'right' to destroy "us" or to decide we need a new 'us'? There are some places that become 'diverse' naturally - port cities, universities on some level - but there is still no explanation why this ideal should be forced on people who don't want it.

Personally, my ancient, Anglo-Saxon liberties: respect for individual rights, free expression and the right to bear arms, are not up for trading so metrosexuals at the New York Times won't be 'bored' by the lack of ethnic cuisine.

This does not mean I advocate some centralized authoritarian imposed culture - but rather, the Edmund Burke view of organic - not engineered - change and growth a society is "a contract with the living and dead and those yet to be born' vs Neocon world view that a centrally imposed ideology can trump (and should trump) the past, tradition and culture.

So am I some stogy old traditionalist? Somewhat, but interestingly enough, stable societies- with deep roots - are the ones that produce the most innovation (homogeneous Athens, Florence, Edinburgh come to mind) . You see when there are not riots going on, or having to fret over whether your classroom has a proper color balance, you can actually learn things.

14 comments:

Anonymous said...

So am I some stogy old traditionalist? Somewhat.

You asked, you answered,as long as you are happy being who you are,and seems that you are.

Only one thing:
If yoor attention goes to the "color balance" in your classroom you have some serious problems.
Some of them comes from your home,education you received and your own self steem,and on a more academic level,the ones in charge to teach you something in that class, are doing something very wrong.

The KnickerBlogger said...

my attention doesn't my point is that when we become obsessed with diversity education takes a back seat to diversity.

Anonymous said...

the only one I notice obsessed very often,is you.
Sorry, I know you don't like it, but I will stand straight to tell you,screen behind, screen in front,straight.

The KnickerBlogger said...

As if this is negative? Is someone concerned about pollution 'obsessed' with it? or concerned. As the study pointed out, and obvious common sense, that continuing to engineer something which is hurtful to society is bad.

Might I ask, what do you think? Why are leaders in Europe and America trying to intentionally change the make up of our societies when the direct result is negative? It defies common sense.

Anonymous said...

You have racist comments sometimes,"subtly" aggresive ones,but they are.
What about "rain coats for nice English women"?
you are one of the most racist people I "met" since I live here.
And is contradictory with some of the things you like, because it sounds like ah ok, you like to go to India or you like to go to Spain but you don't look very happy with us being here.
That's why I am trying not to comment on your posts on this matters,the feeling I get is not very nice.

Anonymous said...

obsessions are never good,they take so much of your energy that blind a wider view and the acts resulting from obsessions are never good,you are smart enough as to understand that.

The KnickerBlogger said...

racist? tiresome, empty charge. I only cite facts.
Now observing that for example, Barbour coats, designed for englishmen and women look good on English women is racist? Is commenting that for example flamenco dresses, designed for a body type common among andulisian women is racist? .or cosmetics for blacks becuase their skin complexion is different? nonsense. its the sort of silly unfounded charges that make any REAL discussion impossible. and in a way you're proving my point.

The KnickerBlogger said...

and i might add, that people being afraid of stupid, unfounded, idiotic charge is the cause of much ignorance and so many of the problems facing our society today.

Another version of it was being called 'antisemetic' whenever someone criticized israel's behavior. In fact when I and others opposed the iraq war we were called 'anti semitic' for pointing out the war was pushed through by the israeli lobby - now hundreds of thousands of people are dead. so whenver someone, you included makes that charge, I laugh ignore it as it indicates to me you have no other recourse.

Anonymous said...

na na na.
your comment about the raincoats was absolutely away form the Barbour one.
you made racist comments along the time I came to met your blogs.
You openly said you don't like immigrants coming nowadays to your country to stay and you gave your reasons, more than ones.
A comment as flamenco dresses or makeup for black skin women is far too irrelevant, and I tought at this point you realized I won be as stupid as to make such judgment.
Is it me the one who can't have a real discussion or is it you the one who is not ready to get a feedback different from what you think is right?

The KnickerBlogger said...

wrong. I said
a. the immigration levels are too high
b. there is no assimilation ethic. So ethnic blocks form. Historically when there are ethnic blocks we lose individual liberty. You're welcome to disprove this but empires are usually multiethinic and controlled by a strong central authority. Instead of calling names, i invite you to disprove this. You simply have resorted to calling me names, shall I return the favor by calling you stupid for not knowing this basic historical fact?
c. while i don't want to everything to remain static, i am against force globalization which makes everything the same. I object to Spain becoming americanized as much as I object to voter forms in Spanish in America.

We can't have a discussion if you aren't reading what I said, and simply making up what I said.

Anonymous said...

OK, So now, -very angry, you call me ignorant, get me involved in something I had nothing to do,(I am and was against the Irak war) accuse me of not reading what you say and on top of that seems I am not ready to have a discussion with you.
I don't think that telling you are racist is calling you stupid, as it seems you want to return me the favor,if you want to call me stupid, if that makes you feel better go ahead,is not going to change anything for me.
Only may be I ought to shut up and just come here to read your comments if I find them interesting,get a Mac if I want to see the movie clips and that's it.
would that make you feel better?

The KnickerBlogger said...

I'd prefer if you didn't read it at all, if there's one thing I am sick and tired of, it's political correctness. I certainly don't want to deal with it here. Good day.

Anonymous said...

do you know why I called you racist?
because when you pointed out the lack of assimilation ethic you never said that that has to do with a political agenda of this coutry's government that is used with inmigrants and with other ethnic groups.The way you express yourself,was only pointing out the fact, not the cause,not the possible remedy.
still now, 63% of black african american women have children single,at a very early age,without a father and without economical resources.
Those kids -plus being drug dealers,prostitutes and more, are the ones who are not going to have enough education as to think clearly when they come to vote.
the same applies to many inmigrants groups.
I do think that if you are coming to live in a country where the lenguage is not yours,you must learn it, you can't expect a country to "addapt" to you,but some people is too old to learn,I see it in this neighbourhood,is not that they don't want,they can't, so why not to give them the chance to understand a form the have fill?
I don't think that massive inmigration is something this country couldn't control, but something that is was not convenient to control.
Finally you are kicking me out of your blog before you didn't even give me the real chance to tell you why I think the way I do,after all the conversation we shared,I am just being kick out like this.
And who wants to go where is not welcome?
I honestly have tears right now,but I will follow your wish.
God bless you.
good day.

Anonymous said...

I just felt sad and honestly tears crossed my face because I couldn't believe that somebody so smart could be so closed heart.
with you is "with me or against me" and "or you know or you are an idiot"
let me ask you something, did I treat you that way last weekend when you were talking about fabrics and styles and fashion statements without having the most remote idea?
no,but you know why?
because I understand that life is a learning process and that we are all learning,and is not necesary to be rude or laugh ironically,the wisest people in history were the most humble ones.
I am my father's daughter,I am afraid of nothing, I am not an idiot, and I DID READ AND RE READ ALL OF YOUR COMMENTS.
But I guess you didn't make a blog to share.
Your "therapy" having it, is probably a place to proyect all the things you want to express and you don't know how,but with yourself, no with somebody else.
You had the HONOR to have me here,don't be confused.
In a 2 people matter, when it comes to loose both parts loose.